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Posted by Ben C on 08/11/07 18:39
On 2007-08-11, Bear Bottoms <bearbottoms1@gmai.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 11 Aug 2007 06:49:57 -0500, Ben C <spamspam@spam.eggs> wrote:
[...]
>> A case in point is its various crude "tools" (I think there's one called
>> the "template" tool for example). So if you want to do the exact thing
>> the CSE Editor gives you a button for, you click the button. But what if
>> you want something slightly different? What do you do? Hunt around for a
>> more expensive version of the editor that has the precise feature you're
>> looking for? Submit a feature request? Of course not, you write it
>> yourself in five minutes using the proper editor or scripting languages
>> you've spent a little worthwhile time getting to know. That's what
>> anyone who has a clue does.
>
> This is a egotistical rant. So if folks don't do what you do, they haven't
> a clue and shouldn't be doing it eh.
Rubbish. I was quite careful to point out that that is exactly _not_
what I am trying to say.
> Many people without high level HTML skills are able to put out fairly
> good web pages using these tools. If you are an expert, I would
> imagine you wouldn't need them.
My whole point is that you don't have to be an "expert" not to need
these tools.
>> In order to write HTML pages it is better to understand some of the
>> basics of text editing, of HTML, and of authoring for the web.
>
> I do understand the basics. I make most of my modifications in the
> code, as sometimes the editors leave a lot of trash in the code when
> you cut and paste.
Why do you use an editor that leaves "trash" around when you cut and
paste??
> If you use an editor at all, these validation tools are very helpful
> with cleaning up the code and finding errors. That is what they try
> to do, help non-experts.
I see, so you start with an even worse tool and then clean up the trash
it produced with CSE Validator. I suppose life is too simple for you.
You must be quite an expert to be able to produce anything at all with
such an approach.
> It certainly isn't a nefarious attempt at anything. If your skills
> are at the level where you don't need their help, swell...
Where did you get the idea that it requires _less skill_ to use editors
that insert trash and the CSE Validator? This is a serious question.
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