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Re: HTML portion

Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on 12/24/07 16:55

On Thu, 20 Dec 2007 00:10:07 +0100, Michael Fesser <netizen@gmx.de>
wrote:

>>>Just for fun (I know, don't feed the trolls) ...

>>Masochist much?

>No. I just have to play a bit with the toys in my killfile every now and
>then. You know, it's like these tamagotchi thingies - from time to time
>they need some love and food. Not that I would care too much actually.

*nods*

I love how you have such a NEED to "explain" yourself to your, what
did you call it, oh yes, "tamagotchi thingies". Tell us Michael...are
you, are you sleeping with your "tamagotchi thingies" too? Are you
molesting them and shoving them up your ass? I mean, do tell, heck
you've already told us so much, why stop there?

>>>>...the fact that such a browser doesn't exist.

>>>Wrong, as usual.

>>Then let's see you list them! And no, Lynx doesn't count. Oh, I'm
>>sorry, was that going to be your ONLY example? LOL

>Nope.

*snicker*

Bumbles here will take the time to run the fuck at the mouth for a
paragraph worth of "explanation" for his failure to shut himself the
fuck up, but then when it comes time to actually defend his dribbling
"arguments"...oh, oops, suddenly he's all stammering and at a loss for
words. Big surprise? Nah, not really.

>>Nope, nope, nope...sorry dumbfuck, but pretty much ALL modern search
>>engines have the capability to parse pages with javascript in them,

>They might be able to parse or regex some URLs out of a script, but they
>don't execute it.

....why would they need to, you dumbfuck.

>>hell they can even spider text content in Flash files fer fuck sake.

>_If_ the text is actually stored as text in the Flash and not only as
>some vector objects.

Oh ye of little brain, why the fuck would someone do THAT?! I mean
unless maybe they were as stupid as you are and just wanted to make
their Flash file as bloated as possible...yeah...pretty much not the
fuck gonna happen.

>>Well, I'm sure *YOU* can't, that deficiency however is not shared
>>amongst the rest of us who aren't total fucking morons. Every "with
>>it" web developer keeps track of user activity and stats on their
>>server which are easily accesible at any time.

>So do I, but I focus on the things that are really important and can be
>measured _reliably_. For anything else rolling a dice would be easier
>and less time-consuming.

*pats you on the head*

It's more than obvious that you've never taken a statistics course,
Fumbles. ^_^

>>And if you look at ANY
>>sites stats you will likely NEVER find figures above 10% as far as
>>having javascript disabled:
>>http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp

>The first three sentences of the JS section are quite interesting.
>Anyway, here's another statistic. It's German, but it's as accurate as
>the one above.
>
>http://www.darw.de/statistik/statistik-js.php

LOL, THE BEST example you can come up with is some unknown stain of a
German site catering specifically to antiquated browsers being run by
foreign users...right.

Of course, you OBVIOUSLY didn't translate said site since their
figures are looking at site ACCESS, not whether or not users have
javascript enabled or not. And no fuckin DUH most sites will "work"
to some level or extent without javascript enabled. The question,
that these German retards are missing, is WHAT functionality of the
site is being LOST. For example ALL of my sites will "work" without
javascript enabled...however on most of them the only thing yer gonna
get is a message telling you to install Flash and enable javascript.

>>On my sites and most of the sites of my personal colleugues we never
>>see javascript disabled on greater than 2% of visitors...

>And I don't have to care at all - my sites also work without JS. This
>separates the competent web authors from the little scripting wannabees.

Of course your sites work without javascript, you're barely floating
above the level of plain black text on a white background. It's not
as if you're even capable of presenting users with a dynamic, modern,
feature rich site.

>>>Actually, providing accessible and usable websites is for people who
>>>have something to say. So don't worry, it's not an issue for you, kiddy.

>>This coming from a dumbfuck whose raping the W3C up the ass for
>>directions. You're the kind of college flunkie level dipshit who
>>thinks if he can get his sites to pass W3C validation that, that will
>>somehow equate to the greatest level of cross compatibility (read
>>accessiblity).

>Wrong again, honey.

Your words thus far say otherwise, Sparkles. Of course, as stupid as
you are you probably don't even know what you're saying half the time.

>>For morons like you, you often sacrifice design for the sake of what
>>you claim is accessibility. What you're too fuckin stupid to
>>comprehend though is that design itself directly affects accessibility
>>in the fact that if the design isn't any good...who the fuck is gonna
>>want to even look at your site? Yes, by making it glitzy and "cool"
>>looking you might lose three or four Amish dipshits like yourself, but
>>you'll GAIN THOUSANDS of people who LIKE that kind of design. Where
>>as if you catered to morons like yourself and presented all your sites
>>as plain black text on a white background...yeah...other than those
>>three or four retards...ain't NOBODY gonna bother visiting yer sites
>>for longer than it takes to start hammerin that back button.

>It's quite amazing how many lines of text you need in order to say
>absolutely nothing. Other trolls are more efficient.

Try it with more RITALIN next time, maybe it'll say more than nothing,
Sparkles. I'm sorry, but I just can't be bothered to lower my writing
down to your third grade reading level.

>>>Such browsers

>>What the fuck do you mean "browsers"? There is no plural here,

>There is. Lynx is not the only one.

....and yet amazingly enough you STILL can't list them. Woah, big
surprise. *nods*

Maybe if you try searching for "home brew" projects and such you might
be able to find some 7th graders computer science project in which
they "programmed" a "web browser" capable of reading a few basic tags.
LOL

>>Dipshit. There's ONLY ONE and its makers stopped development OVER A
>>FUCKING DECADE AGO.

>Wrong again (didn't I say that already?).

You can say it 'till you turn blue in the face, Retard, it's not going
to magically make it come true.

>Let's see, hmm, the latest
>version is from 2006-10-11. That's not exactly what I would call a
>decade, but of course YMMV. And the development goes on BTW.

You confuse open source molestation with official development. The
project is DEAD outside of home brew experimenting "led" by Thomas
Dickey. And retard like yourself can download the source, fuck it all
up, stamp their dumbfuck name on it and then put it out as a "release
version"...of course, only someone equally as fuckin stupid (read
"you") would actually believe that it was an official release in any
sense of the word.

>>The fact is if the original makers of Lynx were
>>creating it today it likely WOULD support javascript (as well as
>>pretty much everything else).

>It could, but doesn't have to.

Let me translate into the language of REALITY:

"It could, but they don't have that level of skill to program it in."

HTH! ^_^

>>It would still be text based but it
>>would have the ability to examine javascript code, extract links from
>>said code and then present them in a plain text format (same with
>>Flash). Of course...who the fuck would want to? I mean back in its
>>heyday there was actually some viable, coherent REASONS for having a
>>plain text browser...at this point...not so much.

>Well, some people only want to see a faked, glittering, slowly rendering
>facade, while others are much more interested in the actual content.

Content is nothing without presentation. On a fool would think
otherwise.

>Nothing beats a non-graphical browser (or a "normal" one with disabled
>images) when it comes to download and rendering speed.

Yeah maybe if you magically traveled back to 1995 and were surfing on
a 14.4 connection, you bumbling retard. Not to mention that with most
sites the text content is shown first with the graphic content being
shown afterwards, so really, you shouldn't notice ANY difference in
speed...except for the fact that in about 1.7 seconds you'll see
images along with the text.

>>>show whether a website is usable or
>>>just binary garbage. If it doesn't work in Lynx, the site is crap. It's
>>>that simple.

>>Only if you're trapped in 1996, Fruitcake.

>_Fucking_ fruitcake, please.

You like fucking fruitcakes, eh?

>>Being an Amish of the Internet is one thing...but when you
>>expect EVERYONE ELSE to cater to YOUR line of deficiency...that's
>>where you crossed the line, Downs. That's where you became this weeks
>>entertainment package.

>You're welcome. It's always a pleasure for me to entertain the "lighter"
>people - it's so easy to do.

Autoflame Grade: A+

....it's not as much fun when the retards flame themselves, although as
we established earlier, you're obviously a masochist of some type.

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