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Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on 12/24/07 17:14
On Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:21:32 +0200, Sir Robin
<robsku@NO-SPAM-REMOVE-THIS.fiveam.org> wrote:
>>>Indeed - personally I havent found a single - not a single - reason to
>>>use (and requite support of it from the users web-client) javascript
>>>on a webpage that is worth of loss of the users there will be.
>>>
>>>Can someone give me one? Just one?
>>You're a moron...but please, stay that way...less competition for
>>those like myself. ^_^
>Bad answer.
>That, were it true, would not be a reason to user javascript but
>rather an explanation for why I would be using it...
Why would you need one? I mean, no offense or anything, but if you
HONESTLY don't know the answer to that question...well you sure the
fuck ain't no web developer, that's for certain. And unless you
dribbling lessers and wannabes want to start sending me a check for my
teaching services...yeah...I'm not gonna hold yer hand and coddle you
through the basics.
>>>Hell, even today _most_ of the webpages of big corporations who you
>>>would not think to give a shit about lynx, links or older versions of
>>>dillo for example ARE viewable and usable with these browsers if you,
>>>for some reason, have nothing else available for browsing their pages.
>>Actually you moron, those sites that do degrade to a fall back version
>>(like my primary site) are meant for Blackberries and other hand held
>>systems...Lynx doesn't ever even enter the equation.
>Never mind what they are "meant for" when the point is that they "are"
>something...
Not for long, Sunshine. Only a fool wouldn't recognize the incredible
growth and expansion of handheld computer systems, most of which are
already supporting Flash Lite and before too much longer will be
supporting the same level of desktop computing.
That's why you don't want to invest much effort into your plain text
versions, cause with the way development is headed even those handheld
systems will be able to support your full site within a year or two.
At that point there really won't be ANY reason to have plain text
sites...well unless you're catering to some assholes in a third world
country that are just now discovering the joys of x86 computing
technology. *rolls eyes*
>>>So what would be good enough reason to shut the door from users who
>>>have a browser with no suppoer for javascript or javascript disabled?
>>>Anyone?
>>...the fact that such a browser doesn't exist. I mean you can try and
>>claim Lynx...but uh...Lynx isn't really a web browser by today's
>>standards...it's just not.
>With no respect to other writer and opinions like these beeing spewed
>out as a holy truth, you really are not very fun...
Well Sparkles, if you don't like it why don't you stop pissin in yer
training panties and try to refute what I'm saying? See, it's only
the "holy truth" if you lack the capability to counter any of my
arguments. Keep learning son, keep hittin those books, maybe someday
you'll reach my level and then you can try and actually counter one of
my "holy truths". ^_^
....actually that's pretty unlikely since if you were on my level of
comprehension you would no doubt agree with me.
>>Trying to surf the Internet with Lynx
>>would be like trying to surf the Internet with a Commodore 64.
>Nope, actually if you compare lynx to a web browser that comes with
>Contiki C-64 version (well, that's the only web browser I know that
>exists for C-64 anyway...) you will find Lynx to be rather like a
>smooth tiger.
We're taking about capability here, not rendering speed. Plain text
is plain text. If Lynx can only claim to do what the C-64 browser
does but faster...well that's not really an improvement, Sunshine.
Hell if you ported the C-64 browser to a modern system I bet it'd run
just as smooth, if not even smoother than Lynx. LOL
>>And Lynx certainly is NOT the browser of choice for blind people, who
>>often use Internet Explorer along with the Windows screen reader (good
>>'ol Sam).
>I have no claims about this.
Most blind people would rather a site talk to them than have to brail
read a site manually...kind of a "no duh" argument. Extra points if
you get the "Sam" reference.
>>>>Granted, there are times that javascript is just what needs to be. A
>>>>client wants a horizontal drop down menu - it can be done in FF with
>>>>just css but not IE, so a small js program is needed.
>>>In which case (btw, I never do drop down menus on webpages)
>>Of course you don't, you seem very much to be an "Amish of the
>>Internet". I'm entirely certain the whole idea of a drop down menu
>>just scares the living shit out of you, huh?
>You are getting better towards the end =)))) LOL
....how fat are you exactly? I mean do you really have a triple chin
every time you grin? *shudder*
>>>I would
>>>use a simple php script to provide a page with javascript for those
>>>whose browser tells them to be IE and the normal version for
>>>others....
>>...you have no idea how fucking stupid that makes you sound, do you?
>Do continue...
If you weren't a retard, poser class, wannabe I wouldn't need to.
Look up "browser detection" vs "feature detection" then feel
stupid...REALLY stupid. *nods*
>>>Oh well, when it comes to reality, I would not do this at all... I
>>>would create a page that will look good on graphical and text-based
>>>clients - from the most packed-up ones to those that support only what
>>>is absolutely necessary to show a html-page (ie. lynx).
>>Lynx is a DEAD browser that reached its peak more than a DECADE ago.
>>It's not relevant AT ALL at this point (besides being used as a
>>failing crutch for morons like you to try and support your Amish
>>inspired stupidity).
>yada yada yada, babble babble babble...
>
>Please, do send me more of your entertainment =))) I'm loving it.
LOL, he's "lovin it"! Just like McDonalds!
I like how he has to continually remind us all of how much fun he's
supposedly having, cause gosh know *I* really care. Maybe I should
just stop every now and again in my posts and ask, "Hey Sparkles, are
you still having fun? Let me know if you're not and I'll to make it
more entertaining for you."
....I mean, I *AM* your online babysitter, so it's kind of my JOB to
keep you entertained, innt? ^_^
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