|  | Posted by Gary L. Burnore on 01/06/08 18:30 
On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 13:24:22 -0500, Jerry Stuckle<jstucklex@attglobal.net> claims he's ignoring me but writes:
 
 >Gary L. Burnore wrote:
 >> On Sun, 06 Jan 2008 09:36:18 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
 >> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
 >>
 >>> Gary L. Burnore wrote:
 >>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:57:07 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
 >>>> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
 >>>>
 >>>>> Gary L. Burnore wrote:
 >>>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:00:21 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
 >>>>>> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>> Gary L. Burnore wrote:
 >>>>>>>> On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 10:14:24 GMT, Doug Baiter <doug-baiter@no.where>
 >>>>>>>> wrote:
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>> On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 17:26:11 -0500, Gary L. Burnore
 >>>>>>>>> <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 04 Jan 2008 21:47:33 GMT, Doug Baiter <doug-baiter@no.where>
 >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 20:49:31 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
 >>>>>>>>>>> <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>> Dick Gaughan wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> In <XrqdnW_lGbgurODanZ2dnUVZ_u_inZ2d@comcast.com> on Thu, 03 Jan
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2008 14:03:11 -0500, Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dick Gaughan wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In <C3A2D429.F13D%nospam@redcatgroup.co.uk> on Thu, 03 Jan 2008
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 18:04:25 +0000, Andy Jacobs <nospam@redcatgroup.co.uk> wrote:
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I don't get it.  Why was the original post spam?
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't. It was many things, including being a
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pathetically-badly disguised festering heap of marketing shite,
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but it wasn't spam.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those insisting it was spam are merely flaunting their
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cluelessness. A post is *only* defined as being spam when it
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breaches the Breidbart Index. Nobody has provided any evidence
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that that particular bit of midge's effluence has exceeded the BI.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Breidbart Index is woefully out of date.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> When was that decided? I must have missed that debate.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>> It's been dismissed as virtually meaningless for quite a while, now.
 >>>>>>>>>>>> SPAM has changed, but the index hasn't.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> In a.w.w, ads of any kind are considered SPAM.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> What aww might or might not consider is about as relevant outside
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> aww as a spider's fart. I'm not reading this thread in aww.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>> Fine.  I am reading this in a.w.w., and it is spam here.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> The BI was adopted as a way of avoiding would-be Usenet vigilantes
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> deciding to classify posts as spam on the basis that they disliked
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> the contents. This discussion shows that the wisdom of that
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> concern still has relevance.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>> So you have some meaningless, out of date measurement which doesn't say
 >>>>>>>>>>>> something is spam or not, but only classifies the severity of the SPAM.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>> Right.  Try again.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> Until someone else comes up with a better content-blind objective
 >>>>>>>>>>>>> definition of spam, the BI is still the benchmark.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>>> There is.  The charter and/or FAQs for the newsgroup.  And the FAQs for
 >>>>>>>>>>>> a.w.w., which were agreed to by the majority of the regulars here,
 >>>>>>>>>>>> classify this as spam.
 >>>>>>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>>>> LIA[SLAP]
 >>>>>>>>>> FAQs aren't charters and are not enforceable.  Charters in unmoderated
 >>>>>>>>>> alt gorups are also uninforceable.  Off charter in comp groups, on the
 >>>>>>>>>> other hand, is something that can get your news provider's attention.
 >>>>>>>>> My bad - didn't look first at the group list. While perfectly
 >>>>>>>>> acceptable in AWW, in a comp group you're right in that its off
 >>>>>>>>> charter which *is* enforcable. Perhaps the zealots in AWW should
 >>>>>>>>> attempt to have it reclassified into a group that has an official
 >>>>>>>>> charter, but in the meantime nobody cares :o)
 >>>>>>>> There's really no such thing as a valid charter in an alt.* group.
 >>>>>>>> Alt.config is a bogus group of morons who want to turn alt into
 >>>>>>>> another form of big8 groups.  Never gonna happen.  Of course,
 >>>>>>>> moderated groups can and do control content but non-moderated groups
 >>>>>>>> are freeform.  Stukkie will just have to learn to use a killfile
 >>>>>>>> there.
 >>>>>>>>
 >>>>>>>>> Nevertheless, please accept my apologies for the mistake.
 >>>>>>>> Accepted.  Unfortunately, Jerry won't stop crossposting back to
 >>>>>>>> comp.*.
 >>>>>>> Sorry, Gary.
 >>>>>> Liar.
 >>>>>>
 >>>>> Let's see you prove that statement, Gary.
 >>>> You're doing it for me, Jerry.  YOU are still posting to comp.lang.php
 >>>> and he's not "making you do it".  YOU are the one posting off charter.
 >>>> YOU. Not him.
 >>>>
 >>> And your posts are on topic?  ROFLMAO!  Pot-Kettle-Black.
 >>>
 >> How's that ignoring me thing going, stukkie?  OOPS, did you LIE again?
 >>
 >
 >ROFLMAO!  Keep it up, troll!
 >
 >>>>> you're just as bad  as the troll is.
 >>>>>>> I have been attacked and maligned by two trolls in a.w.w
 >>>>>>> who have cross-posted to c.l.p. and other newsgroups.  I will not let
 >>>>>>> those go away.
 >>>>>> Because you're owned.  Owned owned owned.
 >>>>>>
 >>>>> Ok, let's tell your employer you're a criminal and a fraud.  See if you
 >>>>> like it?
 >>>> Go for it, dipshit.  I've been called far worse.  My employer is
 >>>> DataBasix.com.  OOPS!  Too bad for you.
 >>>>
 >>> Oh, you mean the one who can't even keep a website running?  ROFLMAO!
 >>
 >> Hahahahaha.  DataBasix isn't a WEBSITE, dumbass.
 >>
 >
 >Nope, but you can't keep a website up.  ROFLMAO!
 
 From: Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
 Message-ID: <dMWdnRMixOBvfx3anZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@comcast.com>
 
 WRONG ANSWER, FRAUD.  It has been and is registered.  You just
 can't find a web page for it.  Sorry, troll.
 
 >
 >>>>> But you're obviously a troll - familiar over a bunch of newsgroups and
 >>>>> message boards on the usenet.   A quick search brings up several
 >>>>> complaints about your trolling.
 >>>> Poor little tard.  You should surely soon be quoting that Jerry
 >>>> Terranson website and stepping right into kookdom.   Once you find it,
 >>>> you'll see why I feel safe in saying that people who make up false
 >>>> shit about you don't matter.  YOU're the one who's making a fool of
 >>>> yourself.
 >>>>
 >>> A lot more than just one website, troll.
 >>
 >> Bring it on, stuckkie.  You know you want to.
 >>
 >
 >Not at all.  I don't have to.  Too many others have exposed you for the
 >troll you are.
 
 Coward.
 
 >
 >>>>> So from now on I'll just ignore you - like the ignorant should be.
 >>>>>
 >>>>>>> However, it may not be a problem from at least one of these for much longer.
 >>>>>> If he loses an account because you lied to his NSP, I'll see to it he
 >>>>>> gets a free account.   Since you've decided to go play NetKKKop, I'll
 >>>>>> take every one of your off charter posts to your provider, comcast. K?
 >>>>>>
 >>>>>>
 >>>>> No lies.  Just showing the ISP's what they've done.
 >>>> Liar.
 >>>>
 >>> Sorry, troll.  No lies.
 >>
 >> Liar.
 >>
 >>
 >
 >Projecting again, Troll?
 
 Jerry claims suing is illegal
 
 From: Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
 Message-ID: <dMWdnRMixOBvfx3anZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@comcast.com>
 
 You'd like that, wouldn't you?  But I don't need to sue you.  There
 are other ways to handle people like you.  I prefer the legal ways.
 
 
 
 Jerry on websites:
 
 From: Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
 Message-ID: <ZfSdnXhomogIeh3anZ2dnUVZ_vCknZ2d@comcast.com>
 
 Gary L. Burnore wrote:
 > On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 23:57:07 -0500, Jerry Stuckle
 > <jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
 
 >> Ok, let's tell your employer you're a criminal and a fraud.
 >> See if you like it?
 >
 > Go for it, dipshit.  I've been called far worse.  My employer is
 > DataBasix.com.  OOPS!  Too bad for you.
 >
 
 Oh, you mean the one who can't even keep a website running?
 ROFLMAO!
 
 While also saying
 
 From: Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.net>
 Message-ID: <dMWdnRMixOBvfx3anZ2dnUVZ_qKgnZ2d@comcast.com>
 
 WRONG ANSWER, FRAUD.  It has been and is registered.  You just
 can't find a web page for it.  Sorry, troll.
 --
 gburnore at DataBasix dot Com
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