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Posted by Neredbojias on 10/02/31 12:01
Well bust mah britches and call me cheeky, on Sun, 27 Jan 2008 04:42:28
GMT Kevin Scholl scribed:
>>> How then can you claim that the quote that started this line of
>>> discussion -- "Design is not just what it looks like and feels like.
>>> Design is how it works." -- is nonsense?
>>
>> Job's statement implies the casual meaning of "works" whereas design
>> can only accurately contain the empirical meaning as illustrated in
>> the first part of my statement.
>
> I've made it clear that I believe Job's statement implies "works" as
> user interaction -- a person's ability to effectively use a particular
> design.
See, that's it. That's what's wrong. "Works", in general, can imply
either design OR engineering. Now, what does a web page "feel like"?
The meaning of that idiom is *how it works* in a user-interaction way -
how it "feels" to the user. Therefore, the phrase later in the quote
"how it works" only makes sense if it connotes engineering. Even were it
was a redundancy, the quote is still bogus for that reason.
> Most people would read Job's statement and interpret it
> exactly as I have suggested. Your argument seems to define "works" as
> how something is built. How you get that from user interaction remains
> a mystery.
As I said just below...
>> We are arguing semantics now, though.
>
> More like you're trying to rewrite them.
No, just reading what is there.
>> If you believe design === engineering, fine. I don't. And I don't
>> think I care to belabor the issue much longer over the selective
>> interpretation of words and phrases.
>
> The only one being selective here is you. In no way, shape, or form am
> I suggesting that design === engineering, nor have I even implied so.
> But since you apparently cannot comprehend that, I'll not bother to
> belabor you further.
Well, we seem to agree on the concept of design vs. engineering but not
on the import of Job's quote. So be it, and no hard feelings.
--
Neredbojias
Riches are their own reward.
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