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Posted by Bruce Grubb on 04/26/06 23:42
In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0604262034550.25448@ppepc87.ph.gla.ac.uk>,
"Alan J. Flavell" <flavell@physics.gla.ac.uk> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Apr 2006, kchayka wrote:
>
> > If you're suggesting that we shouldn't bother trying to get IE to
> > play nice, you must not be dealing with any kind of business
> > venture. Ignoring IE is fine for a personal site, but that's not
> > really an option for anything else.
>
> Well, I'd give that a definite maybe.
>
> > While KISS may be highly desirable, it's a competitive world out
> > there.
>
> A pity that so many folks who are commissioning web sites refuse
> to pay attention to that.
That is the whole point of the Web pages that suck site
<http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/>
The 2006 contender is <http://www.globalaigs.org/> No it is not a tribute
to Monty Python but it is an example not only poor HTML but brain dead site
design.
> > Simple doesn't always cut it.
>
> IMHO, simplicity and specification-conformance works well for the real
> end users. They're not, in general, looking for TV-on-the-web, or
> some online guessing game[1]: they're looking for a well-organised and
> well-indexed site where they can find what they're looking for.
"You should be able to look at the home page of any site and figure out
what the site is about within four seconds. If you can't, your site has
failed." (Vincent Flanders, www.webpagesthatsuck.com)
<http://www.webpagesthatsuck.com/biggest-web-design-mistakes-in-2004.html>
> The problem is that those who commission web sites don't show much
> interest in what works for their end users - but rather, what geegaws
> happen to appeal to them personally.
See point one of the above page. Oh Powerhouse appears to have followed
the write to IE idiocy and lost at least one sale because of it. They got
off that bandwagon real quick when they learned about it. If they had
written to the standard instead of some IE spawned bug they would have not
lost the sale.
On validators, take their results with a grain of salt. They are very
tempermental about line breaks and other stuff browsers don't generally
care about.
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